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[Wojnarowski] The Boston Celtics have emerged as the frontrunner to sign Charlotte All-Star guard Kemba Walker once free agency opens Sunday at 6 PM ET, league sources tell ESPN.

据NBA名记woj报道,多位联盟消息人士称,当自由球员市场开启时,凯尔特人将是全明星控卫沃克争夺战的领跑者。绿军预计会在自由球员市场开启时(7月1日)给沃克一份4年1.41亿美元的合同,后者接受这份合同的可能性越来越大。

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[–]Celtics lms85 3092 points 17 hours ago

Kyrie is still the better player, Kemba is a way better leader and person. After this postseason, I more than welcome it.

凯尔特人球迷:还是欧文更厉害,可是沃克的为人和领导力可强太多了。这个季后赛之后,我对这种操作喜闻乐见。

[–]Jazz CICERO9K 579 points 18 hours ago*

80-90% of Kyrie's production with 0% of the chemistry issues.

爵士球迷:沃克可以贡献欧文80-90%的输出,对更衣室造成的问题却是0.

[–]Celtics bob-the-wall-builder 1229 points 17 hours ago

He is probably the better coach able player.

凯尔特人球迷:也许他还是教练更好带的那种球员。

[–]Raptors sop1232 74 points 16 hours ago

Even though Kyrie is better, I’d still go with Kemba if I had the choice because of how annoying Kyrie is

猛龙球迷:哪怕欧文更厉害,要我我也会选沃克,因为欧文太讨人厌了。

[–]Celtics El_Producto 40 points 13 hours ago

Me too. If we were somehow adding Kemba and keeping Horford I'd feel this was a straight upgrade, in practical terms.

I got downvoted at one point in like March for saying I'd gladly trade Kyrie for a worse player who was a better fit for us. Subsequent events have firmly reinforced that opinion.

As it is, given Horford's also leaving, I don't see this returning us to the "top tier Eastern Conference team" status we had two years ago and last summer, but it's still a nice balm for the wounds if it happens.

凯尔特人球迷:我也是。要是我们能设法搞来沃克同时留住霍福德,那我觉得球队实力就等于是提档了。

好像三月份那会儿我还说,宁愿用欧文去换一个水平不如他却更适合球员的球员,当时被狂踩。此后的事件进一步佐证了我的观点。

事实是,毕竟霍福德也要走,我觉得即便引进沃克也不会让我们回到两年前和去年夏天那种“东部顶尖球队”的地位,可还是能抚慰球队的创伤。

[–]Celtics ballinskary 741 points 16 hours ago

Based on the public opinion of his attitude as a player, it seems like he would be a terrific fit for Stevens.

凯尔特人球迷:基于大家对沃克作为球员的职业态度的认可,貌似他会很适合史蒂文斯。

[–]Bucks jlongc 676 points 16 hours ago

Terrific fit for the young guys too. Bring in an underappreciated vet who will tell you how to grind and work through tough times.

雄鹿球迷:也很搭那些年轻球员啊。球队里来了这么一个被人低估的老将,他会在逆境时告诉你怎么搏杀上岸。

[–]Bulls InsanityPlays 354 points 16 hours ago

underappreciated vet

damn

公牛球迷:“被人低估的老将”

靠哦

[–]Bucks jlongc 555 points 16 hours ago

I mean, he is. Relative to his skill level, he gets way less media coverage because the Hornets aren't good and don't make the post season. Yet he's been the consummate teammate and continues to grind for his team instead of publicly making comments about leaving or throwing his teammates under the bus.

雄鹿球迷:他就是被低估了嘛。相比起他的实力,他得到的媒体曝光度实在是太低了,毕竟黄蜂不强,还进不了季后赛。饶是如此,他依然是个完美队友,继续为球队卖力表现,而不是公开发表离开或者是诋毁队友的言论。

[–]Bulls InsanityPlays 229 points 15 hours ago

it’s more for me the fact that he’s already a veteran lol

公牛球迷:你说的那话里,更让我在乎的是,居然说他都成了老将了,哈哈哈

[–]Bucks jlongc 223 points 15 hours ago

Gotcha. Yeah, it's crazy how time flies, but he's 29 and has been in the league 8 full seasons now. Yet, it still doesn't seem so long ago that he led that UConn team to the ship.

雄鹿球迷:懂了。没错啊,时光飞逝啊,可是他29了,如今已经在联盟打满了整八个赛季。可是呢,感觉他当年带领康大夺冠的画面就在不久之前一样。

[–]connor24_22 145 points 16 hours ago

I think it’s kind of crazy that he probably will end up under Stevens after beating him in the 2011 NCAA Championship game

沃克曾在NCAA击败史蒂文斯的球队走向王座,一想到他如今很可能要在史蒂文斯手下打球就觉得世事难料啊。

[–]Hornets IamOlderthanMe 354 points 17 hours ago

Kemba fits so smoothly with Gordon, Brown, and Tatum.

If you get him, treat him well.. He is one of the best dudes in the NBA. Loves the community and basketball.

黄蜂球迷:沃克是可以和海沃德、布朗、塔图姆无缝衔接的。要是你凯得到他了,那就善待他。他是NBA最nice的人之一,他热爱社区和篮球。

[–][BOS] Jaylen Brown FreshPrinceofBel-Air 100 points 17 hours ago

As someone who admittedly didn't watch much Hornets basketball, why do you think he will fit well with Hayward Brown and Tatum?

凯尔特人球迷:我承认,确实没咋看过黄蜂的比赛,你为啥就觉得他会和海沃德他们很搭呢?

[–]Hornets IamOlderthanMe 217 points 17 hours ago*

Bigger wings provide Kemba the luxury of hiding on defense. Under Boston's defensive scheme where they have good defenders at the other positions, Kemba will be able to focus on offense. Unlike in CHA, Kemba does not have to take the offensive load all by himself though. Tatum and Hayward can create and have Kemba spot up. He is a good spot up shooter and a willing passer so your offense will hum better than it did with Kyrie (even though Kemba is not as good as Kyrie in isolation or shots at the rim).

There are still questions that need to be answered for Boston like, "What does the loss of Horford do to their defense?" "Is Gordon's confidence back? Can he be 80% of the Utah Hayward?"

黄蜂球迷:你们队里块头更大只的侧翼可以弱化沃克在防守端的不足。在你们的防守体系下,你们其他位置有出色的防守人,沃克可以腾出手来专注于进攻。不像在黄蜂时期,他就不必一人扛起全部进攻重担了。塔图姆和海沃德都能创造机会,沃克可以定点埋伏。他的定点投射很不错的,而且他乐于分享球,所以你们的进攻会比欧文时期强不少(哪怕沃克的单打和攻筐没欧文厉害)。

可是波士顿还有一堆问题啊,比如,“失去霍福德会对凯尔特人的防守有什么重创?”“海沃德的信心恢复了吗?”“他能恢复犹他时期80%的实力吗?”

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[–]jonsnowKITN 1995 points 18 hours ago

From Kyrie to kemba

从欧文到沃克

[–][OKC] Russell Westbrook BBallHunter 169 points 18 hours ago*

I wanna see that happen tbh, just out of curiosity.

雷霆球迷:好奇心使然,说真的,我希望这件事情成真。

[–]Celtics FlipTheSwitchCeltics 443 points 18 hours ago

Tampering lmao. We got him.

凯尔特人球迷:咱们这是不当引诱啊,哈哈哈。我们要拿下沃克咯

[–]Warriors TheSpaceCowboyx 881 points 18 hours ago

Man I thought you guys were gonna look to not tank but rebuild, with kemba you guys are a solid team again

勇士球迷:天呐,我还以为你们不是要摆烂就是重建呢,现在沃克来了,你们的实力又很稳了。

[–][BOS] Kevin Garnett ateaguer 27 points 17 hours ago

It’s never been about rebuilding, its retooling. We just need a few pieces.

凯尔特人球迷:我们从来没打算重建,而是要换血。就是要添几个新成员。

[–]Celtics pdunn472 665 points 18 hours ago

We have a big question mark at the center position but I hope Time Lord can get some experience this year

凯尔特人球迷:我们在中锋位置问题还很大啊,可是我希望罗伯特-威廉姆斯能长些经验吧。

[–][CLE] LeBron James gensouj 51 points 17 hours ago

Horford gonna be like oh wait let me re-sign

骑士球迷:霍福德要说了,“噢等等啊,我要续约”

[–]Celtics mightbeabotidk 54 points 18 hours ago

Javale McGee or Tyson Chandler sign me tf up

凯尔特人球迷:要我说就盯着麦基或者钱德勒啊

[–]nba4lifeee 72 points 18 hours ago

Tyson Chandler? dude is done lmao, i doubt he could be a decent starter in the g-leauge even

钱德勒?这哥们儿不行了啊,哈哈哈,我都怀疑他还能不能在发展联盟打上首发。

[–][LAL] Smush Parker rburp 30 points 17 hours ago

Yeah he gave us a spark for about... idk 15-20 games before looking burnt out again? Seems like the change of scenery got him fired up, and then he remembered he's old.

Also, celtics stay away from javale reeee

湖人球迷:没错,钱德勒上赛季貌似雄起了15到20场比赛吧……然后就又熄火了?感觉好像是换了个环境之后他亢奋了一把,然后他又想起自己已经年老力衰了。

再有啊,凯尔特人离麦基远点。

[–]Cavaliers simocm11 296 points 17 hours ago

What about trading for Capela if Rockets are so desperate to get rid of him to clear room for Jimmy?

骑士球迷:火箭不是急于甩掉卡佩拉为巴特勒腾空间嘛,绿军交易卡佩拉咋样?

[–]Thunder Ragnar_OK 165 points 17 hours ago

Who’d they have to give up for Capela?

雷霆球迷:那凯尔特人拿啥换卡佩拉?

[–]Make UhmSay 264 points 17 hours ago*

Morey wants picks apparently

很明显,莫雷想要选秀签。

[–]junkit33 66 points 17 hours ago

They don’t have the cap to trade back in that deal without giving up one of Smart, Tatum, or Jaylen. Capela or Adams are only options if they don’t sign Kemba.

凯尔特人要是不放弃斯玛特、塔图姆和布朗三人之一,他们就没有再寻求其他交易的空间。如果他们没有签下沃克,那么卡佩拉或者亚当斯就是他们唯二的选择。

[–]Celtics urplatypus 29 points 17 hours ago

This is the truth

凯尔特人球迷:这倒是事实。

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[–]Nets Jayden1204 33 points 18 hours ago

Rozier: "Am I a joke to you?"

篮网球迷:罗齐尔:“你们把我当笑话看吗?”

[–]creedbratton603 130 points 18 hours ago

Celtics fans: “Yes, yes you are.”

凯蜜:“是,你就是”

[–]Lakers ShotosCousin 83 points 18 hours ago

What a recovery for them if they snag Kemba

湖人球迷:要是凯尔特人把沃克抢走了,那他们可真就恢复元气了。

[–]Wizards makingsomeeggs 154 points 18 hours ago

Huge upgrade, at least for team chemistry

奇才球迷:升级不少啊,至少球队的化学反应是的。

[–]Celtics Boston_Champions 114 points 18 hours ago

Wait.... I thought no one wanted to come to Boston??

凯尔特人球迷:等等……之前不是说没人愿意来波士顿么??

[–]Celtics sahsan10 19 points 18 hours ago

Ainge always has a backup plan

凯尔特人球迷:安吉总能找到补救的办法嘛

[–]Magic BirchTreeMilk 10 points 17 hours ago

I guess, they also lost Horford which IMO is a bigger loss than Kyrie. There's still stuck with Hayward and his contract, they'll also end up losing some bench depth. I think they'll be stuck in the midfield and won't be fighting for the top spot in the East with little to no upward mobility.

魔术球迷:我觉得吧,他们还没了霍福德啊,我觉得这个损失比失去欧文大。而且他们还被海沃德和他的大合同拖累着,最终他们还会失去些板凳深度。我觉得他们会骑虎难下,在向上流动性很少甚至趋近于零的窘境下,他们没法冲击东部前列。

[–]76ers Chelli64 47 points 18 hours ago*

They have to renounce everybody though. It's essentially Kyrie, Horford, Baynes, Rozier and Morris for Kemba...

76人球迷:他们还得放弃很多人,基本就等于是来了一个沃克,走了欧文、霍福德、贝恩斯、罗齐尔和莫里斯……

[–][BOS] Marcus Smart Gorshun 30 points 18 hours ago

The loss of Kyrie and Rozier can be considered a gain, if you ask me, chemistry wise.

I'll never be happy losing Al and Aron, though.

凯尔特人球迷:要我说啊,就球队的化学反应来说,欧文和罗齐尔的离开可是看作是一种收获。

可是,霍福德和贝恩斯的出走我是绝对高兴不起来的。

[–]Celtics sahsan10 209 points 18 hours ago

Considering a week ago it was kyrie Horford baynes for nothing, I’ll gladly do rosier and Morris for Kemba now

凯尔特人球迷:要这么想啊,就在一周前,咱们可是要白白失去欧文、霍福德和贝恩斯的,现在呢,罗齐尔和莫里斯能换来沃克我求之不得。

[–]Bucks kyleb402 1071 points 16 hours ago

Kemba fucks us every time we play, so this is great.....

雄鹿球迷:沃克每次打我们就爆种,所以这笔交易可行……

[–]Celtics GulfAg 647 points 15 hours ago

Good, then maybe we'll start getting even for all of those fucking Middleton games.

凯尔特人球迷:很棒,或许这么一来咱们就能扯平米神在我凯身上造下的孽了。

[–]Bucks brutmax 342 points 14 hours ago

Middleton and Kemba going to drop 60 each next Bucks/Celts game.

雄鹿球迷:下次我鹿打你们的时候,米德尔顿和沃克各自狂砍60分!

[–]Celtics GulfAg 59 points 14 hours ago

I’ve been seeing Middleton’s name thrown around a lot as FA, are y’all thinking the Bucks will be able to retain him or letting him walk?

凯尔特人球迷:我最近经常看到米德尔顿的名字出现在自由市场上啊,你们觉得雄鹿是要留他呢还是让他走人?

[–]Bucks brutmax 82 points 14 hours ago

I think it’s more likely he stays, if we let him walk we can’t really replace him. So the question is, would you rather keep him at a high cost or add nothing? I’d rather keep him.

雄鹿球迷:我觉得更可能让他留队吧,如果我们放走他了,还真找不到替代者。所以问题来了,你是愿意花大代价留人呢还是换个不管用的人来?我是愿意留他的。

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[–]Suns FultonHomes 735 points 18 hours ago

I'm sorry Hornets fans

太阳球迷:对不住黄蜂球迷啊

[–]Hawks realnbagm 607 points 18 hours ago

Why. They should be low key happy. He’s not worth $200m. Rebuild. He wasn’t taking them anywhere.

老鹰球迷:为嘛啊。他们说不定偷着乐呢。沃克值不了2亿美金。黄蜂重建就是,反正沃克也没法把球队带的更好。

[–]Hornets YaBoiCW 902 points 17 hours ago

I don’t think you realize the issue, if Kemba leaves this teams popularity tanks just as much as we will. If we don’t hit on one of these all American white guys Charlotte is definitely in jeopardy.

黄蜂球迷:你怕是拎不清吧。要是沃克走了,我们这个队的名声就大大受挫。如果我们不能搞来一个好球员,那夏洛特绝对会陷入险境。

[–]MrDee97 2219 points 18 hours ago

Kemba going to Boston and doing a better job than Kyrie is the best timeline

沃克去波士顿,打出比欧文更闪的表现,这就是最佳时间线。

[–]Grizzlies theDarkAngle 207 points 18 hours ago

I mean yeah, I originally envisioned it with Conley. But Kemba is the other super well-liked PG.

灰熊球迷:对啊,一开始我还想着是康利去。可是沃克也是个超级讨人喜欢的控卫啊。

[–]Cavaliers Stupid_Deep 93 points 17 hours ago

yesss Kyrie is going to hate how successful Kemba is in Boston

骑士球迷:爽啊,沃克要在波士顿建功立业了,欧文肯定很不爽。

[–]Celtics WickedClapper 75 points 14 hours ago

I love that Cavs and Celtics fans both agree that Kyrie is a boob

凯尔特人球迷:看来骑蜜和凯蜜都同意欧文是个蠢货啊,真好。

[–]Cavaliers Fiorta 39 points 14 hours ago

A giant boob

But he's a Cleveland legend until the end of time. I hate it lol.

骑士球迷:巨大的蠢货。

可是他一直是骑士的传奇,真不爽,哈哈哈

[–]Celtics WickedClapper 17 points 14 hours ago*

I respect it he helped you win a chip. But yeah major boob and I hope he goes to the Nets and ruins the franchise

凯尔特人球迷:毕竟他帮你们夺冠了,这点我尊重。可他还是个蠢货,希望他去篮网祸害一方。

[–][HOU] James Harden HardenForThree 136 points 18 hours ago

I was rooting for the Celtics last season till Kyrie started talking too much smack about his teammates. Ima root for the Celtics again now that Kyrie gone but if they get Kemba, ima root even harder!

火箭球迷:上赛季在欧文向队友开炮前,我本来是支持凯尔特人的。现在欧文要走了,我又开始支持绿军了。要是沃克去了的话,那我会更支持!

[–]Bulls TakeTheQuickTwo 123 points 18 hours ago

Kyrie is a better player than Kemba.

No headaches, to be sure, but like you’re not contending if Kemba is your best player

公牛球迷:欧文肯定是比沃克厉害的。

这想都不用想,可如果你们队里最强的球员是沃克的话,那是没法争冠的。

[–][BOS] Jayson Tatum Droppin_DimesSP 379 points 18 hours ago

Not like we are contending with kyrie either tho lol

凯尔特人球迷:可是有欧文的时候我们也不能争冠啊,哈哈哈

[–]Celtics wickedkool 12 points 18 hours ago

I'm hoping Tatum emerges as their best player

凯尔特人球迷:希望塔图姆能成长为队内最佳吧

[–]Bucks iFinesseThePlug 107 points 18 hours ago

Besides, Kyrie's efficiency and passing improved when he joined Boston. I don't see why Kemba's can't do the same.

雄鹿球迷:而且呢,欧文在加入凯尔特人之后效率和传球都有长进。我实在想不出理由为啥沃克就做不到。

[–]Cavaliers agegin 48 points 18 hours ago

Totally agreed - a lot of people are overlooking this! Kemba is joining a much better roster and system than he's ever been a part of. I'm really excited to see what he can do in Boston.

骑士球迷:完全赞同。很多人都忽视了这点!凯尔特人的阵容和体系可比黄蜂强太多了。我真的很期待看到他在波士顿会有怎样的表现。

[–]Celtics eporthrowaway 144 points 18 hours ago

This pretty much happens with most point guards in Stevens system. Never forget Jordan Crawford won player of the week under Brad

凯尔特人球迷:大多数在史蒂文斯体系下打球的控卫几乎都会有长进。别忘了乔丹-克劳福德都在史蒂文斯手下拿过周最佳哦

[–]Celtics TheGameDoneChanged 144 points 18 hours ago

and IT had one of the greatest offensive seasons by a guard in NBA history

凯尔特人球迷:而且小托马斯还打出了NBA史上由后卫贡献的,进攻最出色的赛季表现之一。

[–]Bust ANupp 29 points 17 hours ago

Cardiac Kemba is going to bring it into Cardiac Celtics. Let Rozier walk and sign Randle. Kemba/Brown/Hayward/Tatum/Randle would be entertaining and could switch almost everything.

大心脏沃克将会打造一支大心脏凯尔特人。让罗齐尔走人吧,签下兰德尔。沃克、布朗、海沃德、塔图姆和兰德尔,这套阵容会很好看的,而且碰到谁都能换位。

[–]Confirmation__Bias 40 points 17 hours ago

You can't afford Randle if you sign Kemba and you'd get cooked at the rim every single game with that lineup

要是签了沃克,就签不了兰德尔了,即便拿下了,那这套阵容每场比赛都要被对手在篮下肆虐。

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